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"Muslims' sense of belonging could be eroded by European nations not tackling discrimination, a watchdog has warned."

When you read that you start thinking the problem is with us, isn't it? But it is not...

"A report by a European Union-backed anti-racism body says the number of Islamophobic incidents in the 25 member states is probably under-reported."

Well Islam is not a race it is a belief system, a belief system that rejects laws made by men for men. Then we have this crap word Islamophobic, which is meaningless because at the end of the day a phobia is an irrational fear, but there is nothing irrational with being concerned about Islam, just ask Christians in PA controlled territories and in Iraq, or Pakistan and Indonesia. Or now in Europe, there is no irrationality in being concerned with Islam, the irrational ones are the blinkered people who published this report. You just need to look at page 15 to 16 where they make a real lame attempt to define Islamophobia, what a load of rubbish, well I never judge a Muslim as being at the same level as feces. I happen to feel sorry for many of them. They come back to the definition in page 62.

Why has Interpol stopped showing crimes stats, well for a start crime in Europe has overtaken the USA, but this is not supposed to happen in the EU utopia that these people think is happening. The MSM carries out an orgy of news when anyone does something to an Islamic person or icon, but hides the numerous attacks by Islamics on infidels. Why? Any person finally reacting to the Islamic attacks is treated very harshly, more so than the Islamic killers, why?

The EU and European governments are betting our lives and security on a hunch that Muslims can be moderate, we the people who are fed up with being the pawns in this irrational experiment are treated with extreme measure is we say that this is madness or show our displeasure in any way. But in truth can anyone of a rational mind after reading the Quran and the ahadiths really think that this is possible, no...

"This can give rise to hopelessness and could undermine Muslims' sense of belonging in the EU."

I am sorry to tell you, but the majority of Muslims in Europe have no sense of belonging to Europe or one of its nation states, they are above all Muslims. How can you make that broad sweeping statement when half of their population is kept in the house or covered from head to toe for the crime of being women. Where the majority of Muslims live separate lives to the existing population.

And let me tell you of hopelessness, I see the take over of Europe by Islam, I feel hopeless that there is nothing that will stop it with our current leaders and policies, that is hopelessness and this will manifest itself in the flight of decent law abiding people in the near future, it has already started.

The position of Muslims in the EU has become an increasingly important political question in the five years since the 9/11 attacks on America. However, events ranging from terrorism to the international row over the Danish cartoons of the prophet Muhammad - has made integration a problematic issue for many governments.

What this really means is that the governments have been kicked out of their complacency and are at last being told in no uncertain terms by the people that the current state of affairs is not acceptable. The creeping takeover by Islam is something that we do not want.

"Muslims feel that acceptance by society is increasingly premised on 'assimilation' and the assumption that they should lose their Muslim identity," says the report. "Muslims feel that since 9/11 they have been put under a general suspicion of terrorism."

And about time, Islam is not compatible with modern secular open rights based democracy, if they want to stay then they can not feel that Sharia law is the way forward, that women are brood mares, that Jihad is the way and that I as an infidel is at the same level as a pig, dogs, urine, and feces. That a Muslim is the best of people, that non-Muslims have no rights, that there are no innocents because they are not Muslims. And that you can lie, cheat, manipulate your way with good people with impunity. No we are getting wise to you.

As for the EU, how can you dare to publish such a report that defines your own people as racists and bigots for being concerned with an ideology, words escape me, your extreme arrogance has no limits, your stupidity knows no bounds. When I read the Foreword of the report I felt personally insulted, you dare to tell me that to be concerned about Islam in your ridiculous term Islamophobic that this is the same as racist and xenophobic. There are so many self-centred and fake assumptions in this report.

"Muslims in General want to be seen as partners..."

Partner in what, partner in the development of Islam in Europe, partner is getting self-deluded fools like the writers of this report to do their work for them. Do the writers of this report even know their own history, the countless battles to turn back the Muslim tide of conquest.

The issue is not with the general population of Europe, the issue is that Muslims follow the tenants of Islam.

Beate Winkler you should be ashamed of yourself, but your not, your a self-righteous full of wishful thinking idiot, "if only we would be nice to them then they will accept us." Well the grave yards of history are full of people who felt that way.

The comment on the Cartoon controversy misses the whole point, they hold up Mohamed as the perfect man, a role model to be emulated, a man who robbed, killed, raped, took slaves and carved out a bloody Empire and this is their perfect man. And he is so perfect that nothing can be said against him. But hold on one moment, as Islam is a political system, a whole way of life, what choice my freedom when I can not challenge that ideology in total safety, what now for my so called nonnegotiable freedom of expression. If Islam was like Christianity, with no desire to take over the reigns of government, then I would hold off, but as Islam wants to dominate my life, take over and apply its own rules then I see a direct threat to that freedom of expression. That Mr Winkler can not even see that shows that he as a typical EU Elite does not understand democracy...

This assumption is peppered around the whole report, do you agree with this statement?

"Freedom of expression and the protection against racist and xenophobic language can, and have to, go hand-in-hand – the two together make democracy meaningful."

For me what makes democracy work is the ability to question everything without fear and protected by the law

Islamophobia is characterised with respect to:

1. Islam is seen as a monolithic bloc, static and unresponsive to change.
2. Islam is seen as separate and “other”. It does not have values in common with other cultures, is not affected by them and does not influence them.
3. Islam is seen as inferior to the West. It is seen as barbaric, irrational, primitive, and sexist.
4. Islam is seen as violent, aggressive, threatening, supportive of terrorism, and engaged in a clash of civilizations.
5. Islam is seen as a political ideology, used for political or military advantage.
6. Criticisms made of 'the West' by Islam are rejected out of hand.
7. Hostility towards Islam is used to justify discriminatory practices towards Muslims and exclusion of Muslims from mainstream society.
8. Anti-Muslim hostility is seen as natural and normal.

By the way I forgot to tell you that they want to make Islamophobia a crime, so think about item 5. in particular, we have the thought police in the EU at last...

There is a list of so called Islamophobic incidents, but have they even asked themselves about doing a reverse study, of Muslim attitudes to non-Muslims and attacks on non-Muslims, recent data indicates that these attacks are in fact happening in much greater numbers then attacks on Muslims, is that our fault and even more pertinent, who is behind the majority of the attacks on Jews? Table 9 on page 86 is interesting is it not? Then look at page 10, are the police only interested in crimes against Muslims. When a UK woman was assaulted outside a Mosque was that a faith hate crime, the policeman told her that it happens all the time, these crimes are never reported, but look at the crimes reported here, man draws level with women in car and abuses her for wearing a headscarf.

Then you look at the ways that we are helping the integration of Islam, well we are helping inteh building of more Mosques, well that is going to help isn't it....

So this is put forward as a policy, I am trying to see here what the EU would propose:

Implementing social integration and inclusion policies for migrants and minorities
• The EUMC calls upon Member States to implement support measures for migrants and minorities, including Muslims, in order to enhance their social situation, provide them with equal opportunities and prevent their marginalisation and exclusion from mainstream society.
• Member States should establish or support inter-departmental working groups tasked with ensuring that social and economic government policies deliver on the objective of promoting integration on the basis of equality and nondiscrimination for all cultural, ethnic and religious minorities.
• Migrants and minorities, including Muslims, should be actively consulted in the formulation of policies and measures aimed at social integration.
• Effective social inclusion strategies should work with a concept of empowerment. Effective empowerment implies that migrants and minorities, including Muslims, are provided with rights and resources that enable them to take responsibility for enhancing their social integration.
• The EUMC encourages Member States to make use of the Common Basic Principles on Integration (CBPs), adopted by the European Council in November 2004, in their integration policies, in order to improve and diversify their integration programmes and policies.

You can only shake your head at the above, the efforts to enable integration is only on our side

Involving the media
• The EUMC recognises that mainstream and minority media play a key role in shaping social attitudes and behaviour. Further research is needed on both their content and the impact they have on society concerning racism, xenophobia, Antisemitism and Islamophobia. The EUMC for its part will reinforce its work on the media notably through media monitoring initiatives and expert meetings with media professionals.
• The EUMC encourages media organisations and Internet service providers to ensure that complaints procedures are accessible to vulnerable groups, and implement training programmes for journalists and other media professionals to be more reflective of diversity and prevent racist or discriminatory content
in the media.
• The EUMC calls upon the Member States to enact or reinforce appropriate legislation on Internet service providers to prevent the dissemination of illegal racist, xenophobic, antisemitic and Islamophobic material, in accordance with article 14 of the EC Directive on Electronic Commerce (2000/31/EC).

So only a superficial skim, but this is so evidently proof of everything that is wrong with the EU and why it is highly likely that people like me will at some point find themselves in the uncomfortable position of either accepting Islam, chosing to fight and die or leave...